... in the Garden of Earthly Delights....

...hehehe.........

... 'cep for them dead fish ... !!

... oh, not dead? "pond" which is a grave, but full of >live< fish? hmm hmm ??? ... garden of earthly ... maybe not .All. is Delight .. xactly ....

...seems we're slowly but surely making our way towards Heavenly Delights... 'grave'/tomb, full of fish...'post-mortem' Pleasures....'girls with long dark hair'...boys that look like 'Raphael's Angels'...;)

...'Only in Death'...would seem Dream Lover does not harbor much hope of tasting 'that kinda fruit' in this here life...:(

MOG: would caveat: don't be tempted to take any of this interpretation as ... 'prophetic' or indicating that the dream is 'prophetic' ... not many dreams are actually 'prophetic' .... the "not.. much hope" of #6 can be changed to a positive attitude, if you want ... tho y may love painting 'tragic/ romantic' pictures ...

Kind of a 'Renaissance Dream' if y ask me... fit to hang in the Sistine Chapel... tho on 2nd thought, not sure it could make it past 'The Judges'...but then Michelangelo lived to enjoy a warm reception!! so..for all y know 'fans' might 'melt into a puddle' @ the feet of such blatant nostalgia for free and 'innocent' pleasures...;)

I don't think anyone has much hope of feeling that peaceful in this life.. The emotions in dreams feel so much more eternal than the transient ones in reality. But I do love making tragic/romantic situations, and its probably not the best thing to do when it comes to human relationships, especially if you crave peace!

Hahaha...a dilemma of freudin proportions- to die for a taste of peace while u plumb the wanton breast of tragic love for a Spark of Life..'neurotic', 'tormented' n way 'maso-' for sure...but also bittersweet, romantic, n curiously irresistible..hope y find the kinda 'real excitement' n 'intensity of living' that bring y peace :)

Ah! Craving peace! James Merrill: 'there is no peace in this world" ... nor 'should' there be, at least the 'craved' kind cuz if life is so short, relative to the eternity before and the eternity after, well 'peace' is where we just came from, and where we're goin ... so while briefly here ... LIVE all the ups and downs and flats

Ah! Craving peace! James Merrill: 'there is no peace in this world" ... nor 'should' there be, at least the 'craved' kind cuz if life is so short, relative to the eternity before and the eternity after, well 'peace' is where we just came from, and where we're goin ... so while briefly here ... LIVE all the ups and downs and flats

Ahhh...'live' comes from the Proto-Indo-European root 'lip-'=to remain n persevere ...the word, in n of itself, implies Stuggles- to survive, feed ourselves, grow, learn, make a living, meet all sorts of needs...'Peace' would imply 'Absolute Surrender', either refusing to struggle...or a complete n absolute 'giving up of self'

...wish we could be so lucky....:)

th ancients talk of the peace 'which passeth understanding' [n: 'lucky' to give up self?] ... think its on a "higher level" of Life, post "spiritranformtion". imagne wh' wd be "Peace" whch is not an >opposite<, not opp of 'war', or of 'agitation' or of anxiety, etc, but ~includes and transcends~ these anti's, lets life be as it is

...while the 'sage' >identifies< with none of it, but >experiences< all of it ....

..was thinkin +/- along same lines- notice did not say 'to give up ON self' but rather 'giving up OF self' (..to that which is greater than we are/ which brought us INto Life)= move with the spirit of the struggle/ merge with the flow of Life... not clash against, but know the struggle/act/'experience' n integrate without becoming

...n yeah we should be so lucky...find tis very difficult to understand the struggle/ learn it/ be 'good @ it'/ work with it n accept it while not becoming/ embodying 'IT' =The Struggle/ The Fight.....

• from Huxley's "Island": 'If you pay attention moment by moment to Who you ThinK you Are, you may one day suddenly come to know Who you IN FAct Are."

...hehehe...y think so?...to me, 'knowin who y are' is like tryin to hold precious n abundant water in the palm of ur hand...can't help but lose most of it...n it can't help but flow...gather...merge...redirect its course.....

AH! Eureka! Thats IT!! Who I In FAc' AM :: Water ..............................

.... b bbut, ... full of dead fish .... o no herer wa go again.............

Haaaaaaaaaaa......think it was 'live fish' in a 'dead pond'....n y keep seeing dead fish- ref above........??!!!....i wonder...why. is. that?

dyin

...agree...we all are...nothing new there...